I would think 99% of the magazines that are placed at the doors goes into the land fill. With the advent of the PC and Tablets most Dubs don't carry around with them magazines out side of placing them at the doors.
William Penwell
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Requesting a few dozen copies of any edition of Watchtower and/or Awake!
by Pete J ini need maybe 2-5 dozen copies of any edition of the watchtower or awake!
magazines to distribute to family, friends, and neighbors.
any reasonable condition.
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Coming to a Kingdom Hall near you
by FatFreek 2005 inputting it simply, kingdom halls are no longer the property of a local group of the folks that paid for and constructed it.
the lender, the watchtower society, now says that once a mortgage is satisfied, that congregation must then declare a resolution which says it will continue to make payments, usually equal to the amount they were paying on the mortgage.
and they must do so indefinitely.
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William Penwell
can you imagine---- dubs who may have donated for years towards building a kingdumb hall----and understandably feeling a close bond with it-----only to have the ownership taken by the watchtower-------whilst still having to donate the same amount!
I know a lot of them that would go along with this without question. The WT would spin it that the money is needed to go where the need is greater and most of the rank and file dubs would go along with it.
I know the WT does not tithe but they put a heavy guilt trip on to the members to contribute as much as they can to the KIngdum work. My parents would give a fair amount from the pension money to the Kingdum work.
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Need some advice Re: JW marking by a family member
by William Penwell inso anyone that has read some of my posts on here over the years knows i have done the slow fade over the last 30 years.
i do not claim to be a jw and have not being in a kingdum hall now to attend a meeting or convention for religious reasons for almost 15 years.
now i know the discussion on here from this past dc was the rank and file dubs have being pressured to distance themselves away from family members that are no longer active dubs that they deem are not living up to wt bible principals.
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William Penwell
Just a curve ball here - are you and your girlfriend likely to get married?
No plans right now and I do not want to do it because it would make someone else happy. I was married once and as a dub I married for the wrong reasons.
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I don't think I will be able to escape the JWs ...
by nevaagain ini know i will get a lot of backslash on this forum for saying this, but as it looks like, i won't ever be able to escape the jws.
i have been a born in, third generation jw and awoken in one way or another (i joined this forum 15 years ago) for a very long time.
but i have adapted to the jw lifestyle to a point where it does not bother me anymore.
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William Penwell
You cannot continue to live a double life. I was there and done that. My ex wanted a elder pioneer husband and was never going to be that. I had to go to the meetings on Sunday and put on a false façade in front of these other people I really had nothing in common with. It eventually got to me before I made my decision to leave. It is your life, do what makes you happy. No one else can tell you what you should or shouldn't do, so you do not have to listen to what anyone has to say here.
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Coming to a Kingdom Hall near you
by FatFreek 2005 inputting it simply, kingdom halls are no longer the property of a local group of the folks that paid for and constructed it.
the lender, the watchtower society, now says that once a mortgage is satisfied, that congregation must then declare a resolution which says it will continue to make payments, usually equal to the amount they were paying on the mortgage.
and they must do so indefinitely.
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William Penwell
I can't believe anyone with any common sense would donate money to something that they could get evicted at any time if the organization see fit to do so. I bet you the rank and file dub do not fully understand what this means or the WT has flowered the contract up enough to hide this fact.
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Need some advice Re: JW marking by a family member
by William Penwell inso anyone that has read some of my posts on here over the years knows i have done the slow fade over the last 30 years.
i do not claim to be a jw and have not being in a kingdum hall now to attend a meeting or convention for religious reasons for almost 15 years.
now i know the discussion on here from this past dc was the rank and file dubs have being pressured to distance themselves away from family members that are no longer active dubs that they deem are not living up to wt bible principals.
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William Penwell
How much interaction did you have? Would ignoring it be a possibility?
Even though we have not had a lot in common as far as the religion was concerned, we would meet up the odd time for coffee or lunch and talked about stuff in general but never got into the religious stuff. That was the relationship we have had. We were close in age and we had a lot in common growing up. The last two years since my parents have passed away we have not had much contact. Seems like it was our parents that kept us together. The signs were there that she has being somewhat distant the last while. I think she has been getting some heat from maybe another family member or the organization that she should not have too much to do with me as a non practising dub. I have no problem walking away now if this is what she chooses as I am not going to be emotionally black mailed. I think I will just make a brief reply stating that it is her choice not mine (as I do not recognize the WT authority anyway) and that I have to do this for my happiness because I want to not because someone else wants me to.
You have done a slow fade for the past 30 years , have not attened a meeting for the past 15 years ?
And you are concerned about what your JW sister thinks of you ?
It sounds to me , WP , that you are a typical person that has left the "truth" however the "truth" has never left you ,
You need to do research and decide for yourself whether JW`s have the truth or not and stop sitting on the fence.
Research information on this site using the search option at the top right hand corner on subjects that relate to the truth.
The time has come for you to make decisions in your life that map out your future ,go for it.No I am not concerned what my sister or anyone else thinks of me, otherwise I would still be a Dub. I am at a good place in my life and am happy without the cult in my life. Not sure of your back ground but if a person still has some family members in the religion, regardless, you never quite get away from the whole BS. I know it was discussed on here that the WT this last DC was putting pressure on Dubs to cut ties with other family members that were ex Dubs if they are not living a what they deem as a "Christian" life style.
As far as the cult or religion is concerned I have made my choice. I am no longer consider myself as dub. Like I mentioned the only reason why I stayed somewhat close was because for my parents sake. Now they are gone I am not worried if my other brothers or sisters cut ties with me. I am happy in my life and will just move on with my own life. I will not be emotionally black mailed in to doing what someone else wants me to do. After I received my sisters email, I just didn't want to respond out of emotions but give it some thought. My reason for this post was to get some input from others on here that has had to deal with a similar situation.
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Rape Victim Forced To Listen To a Tape Of Her Assault In A JC
by pale.emperor inthis is absolutely outrageous.
a rape victim was forced to listen to herself being raped while the elders stopped and started the tape claiming she was consenting.
even though during one of the assaults she was duct-taped, gagged and had a pillowcase over her head.
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William Penwell
I swear that some of these old fuddy duddies actually get off by listening to some of this. I recall one of the judicial meeting I had to sit through to get reinstated they asked me if I had any relations with a certain woman and I said no. Well that wasn't good enough, the one elder had to then ask questions and went into details like did you touch her there or kiss her etc. A bunch of sick f*cks.
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Anybody else having trouble walking away?
by JW-Matrix inok...so i'm a 19 year old fifth generation jw.
mentality, i've been out of the "truth" since i was 16(woke up after i was baptized ironically), but on the outside i'm a model jw.
my parents are really devoted, my grandparents are super devoted, and so are my ants and uncles.
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William Penwell
The bottom line is you have to do it for yourself, not for anyone else. If you are only going back to make other happy then you are not going back for the right reasons. I myself had to come with those terms years ago and I told my family that I would only go back because i want to not because they want me to. It is not easy to walk away when all your family is in but you are going through a time where you have to search within yourself and do what is right for you.
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Is disassociating worth the hassle?
by HereIgo ini have been out now for 6 years but lately i have been giving some thought to da.
i just kind of feel that chapter in my life is still open and for some reason i feel like da'ing might close that chapter but i'm not entirely sure.
im not df either, when i left i basically faded and disappeared.
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William Penwell
I think by DA yourself you are only empowering this J Dub cult. I do not look at this cult as having any authority over me, so if all is going OK without them then just live your life and be happy.
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Need some advice Re: JW marking by a family member
by William Penwell inso anyone that has read some of my posts on here over the years knows i have done the slow fade over the last 30 years.
i do not claim to be a jw and have not being in a kingdum hall now to attend a meeting or convention for religious reasons for almost 15 years.
now i know the discussion on here from this past dc was the rank and file dubs have being pressured to distance themselves away from family members that are no longer active dubs that they deem are not living up to wt bible principals.
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So anyone that has read some of my posts on here over the years knows I have done the slow fade over the last 30 years. I do not claim to be a JW and have not being in a KIngdum Hall now to attend a meeting or convention for religious reasons for almost 15 years. Now I know the discussion on here from this past DC was the rank and file Dubs have being pressured to distance themselves away from family members that are no longer active Dubs that they deem are not living up to WT bible principals.
Now my J Dub sister has being a little distant since my parents passed away but we have always we have being on speaking terms. I thought she was aware of my situation that I have been living together with my GF for the last 2 years. Now she has found out we are living together and I got a "dear john" type of letter just giving me the ultimatum that since I am living against her principles she can no longer have anything to do with me. Well I did not not to respond right away as I would only be replying out of emotions and end up saying the wrong thing. One thing I will say to her is that it is her is if she chooses not to speak to me than it is her decision/choice not mine.
Any other helpful points would be much appreciated.